Post by Origanalist on Oct 10, 2016 7:56:11 GMT -8
ROD DREHER • October 8, 2016, 11:44 PM
Hello from Indiana! I was at the Front Porch Republic event at Notre Dame today, but it sounds like the real action was further north, in Elkhorn, Wisconsin. McKay Coppins reports like a boss:
In a jarring illustration of the chaos now engulfing the Republican Party, supporters of Donald Trump clashed bitterly with GOP leaders at a rally here Saturday — booing elected officials, heckling Paul Ryan, and angrily demanding greater establishment support for their beleaguered presidential nominee.
Hey, what was that like? This:
Other elected officials became more combative with the audience. When Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner talked about how voters had been coming to the Fall Fest for years to support Ryan and other local Republicans, hecklers shouted, “Not anymore!” and, “I’m for Donald Trump!”
“Why don’t you listen to what I have to say instead of interrupting me?” Sensenbrenner snapped. Soon, the 73-year-old congressman was in a shouting match with the Trump supporters in the crowd. “Listen to me, please,” he kept repeating, before ordering the audience to “clean up your act.”
By the time it was Ryan’s turn to speak, the mood had grown indisputably hostile. He took the stage to scattered boos, and shouts of, “What about Donald Trump?” and, “Shame on you!”
“Look, let me just start out by saying: There’s a bit of an elephant in the room,” Ryan told the crowd. “And it’s a troubling situation … but that is not what we are here to talk about today. You know what we do here at Fall Fest? We talk about our ideas, we talk about our solutions, we talk about our conservative principles.”
Trump supporters greeted the message with a chorus of boos and abuse.
“Trump for president!”
“Mention Trump!”
“You turned your back on him!”
Coppins tweeted from the scene:
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McKay Coppins ✔ @mckaycoppins
This was one of those events where it feels like you're watching the Republican Party break up in real time. Unreal.
1:22 PM - 8 Oct 2016
513 513 Retweets 1,219 1,219 likes
Y’know, time was I would have been unambiguously pleased as a conservative to watch the GOP establishment melt down, so we could open the door for new ideas. Never in a million years would I have expected Donald Freakin’ Trump to be the white-hot Jina Syndrome core. One thinks of the quote attributed to St. Teresa of Avila: “More tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones.”
I never would have imagined the day when I could not allow my children to watch an American presidential debate because I was worried about what lewd and lascivious things the Republican nominee would say on live television. But here we are in October 2016, and this is a thing.
I commend to you this editorial from the Deseret News. To their great credit, Mormons have been right about Trump since the beginning. Excerpt:
In democratic elections, ideas have consequences, leadership matters and character counts.
The idea that women secretly welcome the unbridled and aggressive sexual advances of powerful men has led to the mistreatment, sorrow and subjugation of countless women for far too much of human history.
The notion that strength emanates from harsh, divisive and unbending rhetorical flourish mistakenly equates leadership with craven intimidation.
The belief that the party and the platform matter more than the character of the candidate ignores the wisdom of the ages that, “when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.” (Proverbs 29:2)
We understand that politicians and presidential candidates are human and that everyone makes mistakes. We do not believe that what is expressed in an unguarded moment of conversation should be the full measure of an individual. And we unquestionably support the principle that people deserve forgiveness, compassion and a second chance.
But history affirms that leaders’ examples either elevate or demean the lives of those being led. When choosing the ostensible leader of the free world, the American electorate requires the clear assurance that their chosen candidate will consistently put the well-being of others ahead of his or her own personal gratification. The most recent revelations of Trump’s lewdness disturb us not only because of his vulgar objectification of women, but also because they poignantly confirm Trump’s inability to self-govern.
What oozes from this audio is evil.
Well, it is. (Read Alan Jacobs’s comments on it).
continued www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/gop-meltdown-answered-prayers/
Hello from Indiana! I was at the Front Porch Republic event at Notre Dame today, but it sounds like the real action was further north, in Elkhorn, Wisconsin. McKay Coppins reports like a boss:
In a jarring illustration of the chaos now engulfing the Republican Party, supporters of Donald Trump clashed bitterly with GOP leaders at a rally here Saturday — booing elected officials, heckling Paul Ryan, and angrily demanding greater establishment support for their beleaguered presidential nominee.
Hey, what was that like? This:
Other elected officials became more combative with the audience. When Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner talked about how voters had been coming to the Fall Fest for years to support Ryan and other local Republicans, hecklers shouted, “Not anymore!” and, “I’m for Donald Trump!”
“Why don’t you listen to what I have to say instead of interrupting me?” Sensenbrenner snapped. Soon, the 73-year-old congressman was in a shouting match with the Trump supporters in the crowd. “Listen to me, please,” he kept repeating, before ordering the audience to “clean up your act.”
By the time it was Ryan’s turn to speak, the mood had grown indisputably hostile. He took the stage to scattered boos, and shouts of, “What about Donald Trump?” and, “Shame on you!”
“Look, let me just start out by saying: There’s a bit of an elephant in the room,” Ryan told the crowd. “And it’s a troubling situation … but that is not what we are here to talk about today. You know what we do here at Fall Fest? We talk about our ideas, we talk about our solutions, we talk about our conservative principles.”
Trump supporters greeted the message with a chorus of boos and abuse.
“Trump for president!”
“Mention Trump!”
“You turned your back on him!”
Coppins tweeted from the scene:
Follow
McKay Coppins ✔ @mckaycoppins
This was one of those events where it feels like you're watching the Republican Party break up in real time. Unreal.
1:22 PM - 8 Oct 2016
513 513 Retweets 1,219 1,219 likes
Y’know, time was I would have been unambiguously pleased as a conservative to watch the GOP establishment melt down, so we could open the door for new ideas. Never in a million years would I have expected Donald Freakin’ Trump to be the white-hot Jina Syndrome core. One thinks of the quote attributed to St. Teresa of Avila: “More tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones.”
I never would have imagined the day when I could not allow my children to watch an American presidential debate because I was worried about what lewd and lascivious things the Republican nominee would say on live television. But here we are in October 2016, and this is a thing.
I commend to you this editorial from the Deseret News. To their great credit, Mormons have been right about Trump since the beginning. Excerpt:
In democratic elections, ideas have consequences, leadership matters and character counts.
The idea that women secretly welcome the unbridled and aggressive sexual advances of powerful men has led to the mistreatment, sorrow and subjugation of countless women for far too much of human history.
The notion that strength emanates from harsh, divisive and unbending rhetorical flourish mistakenly equates leadership with craven intimidation.
The belief that the party and the platform matter more than the character of the candidate ignores the wisdom of the ages that, “when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.” (Proverbs 29:2)
We understand that politicians and presidential candidates are human and that everyone makes mistakes. We do not believe that what is expressed in an unguarded moment of conversation should be the full measure of an individual. And we unquestionably support the principle that people deserve forgiveness, compassion and a second chance.
But history affirms that leaders’ examples either elevate or demean the lives of those being led. When choosing the ostensible leader of the free world, the American electorate requires the clear assurance that their chosen candidate will consistently put the well-being of others ahead of his or her own personal gratification. The most recent revelations of Trump’s lewdness disturb us not only because of his vulgar objectification of women, but also because they poignantly confirm Trump’s inability to self-govern.
What oozes from this audio is evil.
Well, it is. (Read Alan Jacobs’s comments on it).
continued www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/gop-meltdown-answered-prayers/
