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Post by Origanalist on Apr 12, 2016 13:20:28 GMT -8
 WRITTEN BY: JENNIFER BURKE JANUARY 25, 2016 One of the biggest criticisms of those opposed to the Donald Trump for President campaign is that the bombastic billionaire and reality TV star, who is running for the presidency as a Republican, is that he is simply not a conservative as he is trying to sell himself to be to the American people. In fact, over the weekend, Trump said that he was more conservative than Ronald Reagan. Though Trump can make all the claims about his political leanings that he wants, what voters need to pay attention to is the consistency of his words, actions, a stance on the issues. What The Donald said during an interview with Field and Stream magazine at SHOT Show in Las Vegas on January 21 will add more fuel to the fire that Trump is no true conservative and, in fact, holds far too many views more in line with far-left Democrat and dictator-in-chief Barack Obama. Trump sat down with Anthony Licata, editor of Field and Stream magazine, to discuss guns, hunting, and conservation. One of the topics during the discussion was regarding public land and the fact that the federal government unconstitutionally has taken over control massive amounts of public land in Western states. In Nevada alone, the federal government has claimed as their own 80 percent of the public land. To put it in perspective, this is how much land the federal government has confiscated from the states.  So, how does Donald Trump feel about this unconstitutional, federal land ownership for land belonging to the states? (emphasis mine) AL: I’d like to talk about public land. Seventy percent of hunters in the West hunt on public lands managed by the federal government. Right now, there’s a lot of discussion about the federal government transferring those lands to states and the divesting of that land. Is that something you would support as President? DT: I don’t like the idea because I want to keep the lands great, and you don’t know what the state is going to do. I mean, are they going to sell if they get into a little bit of trouble? And I don’t think it’s something that should be sold. We have to be great stewards of this land. This is magnificent land. And we have to be great stewards of this land. And the hunters do such a great job—I mean, the hunters and the fishermen and all of the different people that use that land. So I’ve been hearing more and more about that. And it’s just like the erosion of the Second Amendment. I mean, every day you hear Hillary Clinton wants to essentially wipe out the Second Amendment. We have to protect the Second Amendment, and we have to protect our lands. (this is not satire) continued with video...http://politistick.com/the-truth-about-trumps-stance-on-the-federal-land-grab-video/# |
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Post by acptulsa on Apr 12, 2016 13:26:34 GMT -8
So, do we laugh at the fact that they include Indian reservations on that map, or cry because the Indians may well get ripped off--again--before this federal government is done?
And do we laugh or cry that this guy is a Republican and people are running around saying he's as libertarian as they get, but he wants the federal government to own eighty percent of Nevada (which is just as communist as it gets)?
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Post by Origanalist on Apr 12, 2016 13:30:27 GMT -8
Sometimes when I can't decide I just take one of these;  and have a stiff drink. |
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Post by 3D on Apr 13, 2016 7:55:13 GMT -8
Sometimes when I can't decide I just take one of these; and have a stiff drink. That stuff's great, I've been using it for years. |
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Post by acptulsa on Apr 13, 2016 8:28:15 GMT -8
That map of federal lands also includes the whole of Osage County, Oklahoma (yes, the one from the movie). That hasn't been federal land for 150 years.
After the Civil War, the federal government decided to punish the tribes of Indian Territory in several ways. One was allotment. The Indian reservations were divided up among the tribe members, and each received an allotment of land, ending community ownership by the tribe. Of course, after each allotment there were lands left over, which the government sold.
Somehow, Osage County got listed as still being a reservation, despite the fact that other people besides Osage Indians live there. Six years ago a federal judge reaffirmed that, since the allotment, it is all private property, yet still the maps aren't fixed.
If this land grabbing continues, how many people are going to be stripped of land they (or their forefathers) bought legally, fair and square because the federal government would rather believe their own inaccurate maps than their own courts?
The view that the federal government does the things it does because it loves us and wants us to be happy is insanely naive and requires a rather advanced state of denial. But what if it were true? It still commits enough clerical errors to rob countless people and ruin their lives inadvertently.
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Post by 3D on Apr 13, 2016 8:33:14 GMT -8
On the reservation in Poplar Montana, oil was discovered. It wasn't 20 years later, those who owned the land were given a one time payment to give up that land. The land owners were not given a choice in the matter. Now that oil isn't on reservation land.
Guess the oil company didn't want to pay those Native Americans any royalties for pumping oil off of their land.
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Post by acptulsa on Apr 13, 2016 8:38:52 GMT -8
Guess the oil company didn't want to pay those Native Americans any royalties for pumping oil off of their land. I'll bet you can also guess whether it was the tribe or the oil company which delivered more brib--er, I mean campaign contributions to Washington, too. |
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Post by 3D on Apr 13, 2016 8:49:53 GMT -8
Of course, and those who owned the land were never even asked if they wanted to sell. As I recall, for a long, long time, that land couldn't be sold, but only inherited. Something changed. Guess before long, the reservations won't exist, as they will have been sold to corporations.
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