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Post by Origanalist on May 3, 2016 21:05:39 GMT -8
It's obvious we aren't getting traction in national elections, so what to do? Go Anarcho and just step away from the voting booth? Vote third party to register our disgust? It's a major setback from the giddy hopes of 2012 when it looked like we were on a roll even if we weren't going to get Ron Paul the nomination. Things were looking up, it looked like we were making substantial inroads into American politics.
Now it feels more like we're losing ground, or is it just me? And on top of that we have all these defectors to Camp Trump, Lew Rockwell, Justin Raimondo, Alex Jones etc.. So am I missing the boat here? Is Donald Trump somehow a liberty candidate and I just fail to see it? Is he on a stealth mission to bring about liberty after he builds the wall and vastly increases the police state? How can that be?
I'm of the opinion the Donald is going to be our next President, the question is, what effect is that going to have on what is called the liberty movement. All opinions welcome.
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Post by JK/SEA on May 4, 2016 10:46:21 GMT -8
like myself, a lot of Ron Paul supporters and delegates for Ron are still pissed at the RNC for obvious reasons, and see this Trump campaign, and the fact its pissing off a lot of those that fucked us over, getting a beat down. Makes me truly LAUGH OUT LOUD.
Ive got a few Ron Paul for prez lawn signs leftover in my garage...may put one in my front yard.
i'd encourage anyone with one of those signs to do the same...just to show everyone we're still out there...
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Post by Origanalist on May 4, 2016 20:37:02 GMT -8
like myself, a lot of Ron Paul supporters and delegates for Ron are still pissed at the RNC for obvious reasons, and see this Trump campaign, and the fact its pissing off a lot of those that fucked us over, getting a beat down. Makes me truly LAUGH OUT LOUD. Ive got a few Ron Paul for prez lawn signs leftover in my garage...may put one in my front yard. i'd encourage anyone with one of those signs to do the same...just to show everyone we're still out there... But...Ron isn't running... |
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Post by JK/SEA on May 5, 2016 6:23:05 GMT -8
try and think outside the box...yes..i know Ron isn't running but...ahhh...nevermind...
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Post by Origanalist on May 5, 2016 14:02:31 GMT -8
Lol, that's the spirit.
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Post by clydecoulter on May 5, 2016 14:50:51 GMT -8
The establishment got what they wanted. Anyone thinking they didn't doesn't understand the influence it has over the media. The media promoted T.rump and got T.rump.
Now, what they do at the convention is another story all together, and perhaps that will depend on negotiations with T.rump.
But, Rand was stopped, and that was the main thing for them.
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Post by Origanalist on May 5, 2016 17:50:58 GMT -8
The establishment got what they wanted. Anyone thinking they didn't doesn't understand the influence it has over the media. The media promoted T.rump and got T.rump. Now, what they do at the convention is another story all together, and perhaps that will depend on negotiations with T.rump. But, Rand was stopped, and that was the main thing for them. I have to agree entirely, if anyone was going to upset the apple cart it was Rand, not Trump. Trump's just running interference, as his dumb ass duped supporters will find out soon enough. |
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Post by JK/SEA on May 8, 2016 7:57:14 GMT -8
all well and good and i understand voting your principles as i did in the last election. Now this clusterfuck...not voting hilliary, not voting for trump, and i may not vote at all. So, looks like hilliary is the next prez amirite...?....seems like a lot of people, including the bush family, are on the same page as me....kill me please.
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Post by Origanalist on May 8, 2016 9:52:11 GMT -8
all well and good and i understand voting your principles as i did in the last election. Now this clusterfuck...not voting hilliary, not voting for trump, and i may not vote at all. So, looks like hilliary is the next prez amirite...?....seems like a lot of people, including the bush family, are on the same page as me....kill me please. No, you're going to have to suffer right alongside me comrade. |
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Post by acptulsa on Jun 23, 2016 14:30:12 GMT -8
I'm thinking it might be time to emulate the rats, and jump off the sinking ship.
Or, we'll just do what we have always done--say we told them so...
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Post by TRP on Jun 23, 2016 14:32:51 GMT -8
It's obvious we aren't getting traction in national elections, so what to do? Go Anarcho and just step away from the voting booth? Vote third party to register our disgust? It's a major setback from the giddy hopes of 2012 when it looked like we were on a roll even if we weren't going to get Ron Paul the nomination. Things were looking up, it looked like we were making substantial inroads into American politics. Now it feels more like we're losing ground, or is it just me? And on top of that we have all these defectors to Camp Trump, Lew Rockwell, Justin Raimondo, Alex Jones etc.. So am I missing the boat here? Is Donald Trump somehow a liberty candidate and I just fail to see it? Is he on a stealth mission to bring about liberty after he builds the wall and vastly increases the police state? How can that be? I'm of the opinion the Donald is going to be our next President, the question is, what effect is that going to have on what is called the liberty movement. All opinions welcome. |
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